Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Wednesday, September 24, 2014, Fernando wrote, Psalms 82 (6)I said, “You are gods, Deepak Chopra references this line to support his pantheistic view. Others often will use lines from the bible to support their objectives. This kind of error reveals ignorance from the speaker and those who do not call out the error. The scriptures clearly states there is only one God, yet even within this chapter context is given to whom these passages are rebuking. (1) God takes his stand in His own congregation; he judges in the midst of the rulers. (5) They do not know nor do they understand; they walk in darkness (6) I said, “You are gods…” (7) nevertheless you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes Verse 7 leaves open for the argument that, like Jesus, you can face a mortal end and yet still be a ‘god’ but you then must ignore explicit claims that there is only One God. The Mormons argue down this line for their belief in created gods, like Jesus (a non eternal god – in their view). A longer discussion could go on about their use of scriptures, which by the way is a good challenge if you are up for it. Ultimately, no debate or argument I have heard has the capacity to overcome the fundamental assumptions each side holds. It is as if each side has a lens they themselves cannot touch or adjust, it is as if to understanding correctly were a: Ephesians 2:8,9 …gift of God, not a result of works. I have been fascinated by debates. Some of the greatest minds present a great argument but they are unable to touch at the fundamental framework that people operate, because when you approach such a thing you leave man’s authority and enter God’s sovereignty. This is why we are to be ministers of Gods word, speaking to dead people, so that God’s spirit may resurrect those who have been called to Life. |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Monday, July 8, 2013 (Last Updated on 7/7/2015), Yujin wrote, The unbelieving have this perspective: "I would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven." They only say this because they are clueless both about hell and heaven. First of all, hell is not the final resting place for the wicked. No, it is the Lake of Fire. Hell itself will be thrown into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14). This is the final judgment of the wicked. And it is not a place to rule. No, it is a place of unceasing torment. Consider just a few Scriptures that describe it: And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11). And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever... Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10,14-15). The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire; in that place there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:41-42). This is the alternative to heaven. It is a place of perpetual burning, unceasing agony, without any reprieve. This is also why the Psalmist can declare, For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand outside. One day in God's presence is better than a thousand anywhere else, even if it is the best place one can imagine. The Psalmist prefers being ouside and exposed at the threshold of God's house than enjoy all the comforts and amenities that pursuing the dwelling places of wickedness might offer. Friends, this Psalmist's longing is also my heartbeat, at least one that I aspire to better perceive and embrace. One of my favorite songs, called "I Can't Live a Day Without You" by Avalon, captures the sentiment well. Listen to it here: |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Monday, July 9, 2012 (Last Updated on 7/7/2015), Yujin wrote, A single day in your courts is better than a thousand anywhere else! I would rather be a gatekeeper in the house of my god than live the good life in the homes of the wicked. For the LORD God is our sun and our shield. He gives us grace and glory. The LORD will withhold no good thing from those who do what is right. O LORD of Heaven’s Armies, what joy for those who trust in you. (Psalm 84:10-12 NLT) The psalmist exalts in God. A single day with God is better than a thousand days in any other place. It is better to be a servant in God's house than a master in the homes of the wicked. Why? God supplies light and protection ("sun and shield"). He gives undeserved favor and true glory. God withholds nothing good from those that obey Him. In trusting in the LORD there is fullness of joy. It would be easy to read in these words that God is to be exalted because of His benefits, but that would miss the picture altogether. For the psalmist wants us to understand that the benefits are only great because they proceed from God. That is why being a servant in God's house is better than a good life in the homes of the wicked. God makes every experience, even slavery and suffering, good. It is as Asaph wrote in Psalm 73:28, "The nearness of God is my good." Simply being near to God is our good! (Shane and Shane have a song with this theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk_jBfJi_pk&app=desktop) Over the years in my Christian walk I have seen my prayers change. Early on I asked God for many things for myself in prayer. As time passed, I found myself spending more time interceding for others. Today, my prayers seem almost entirely about God and what might please Him. My early prayers were predominantly about the sick becoming well, safety for travelers, good grades, success at work, etc. As time passed, my prayers became much more theological, such that I even enjoyed listening to my own prayers (this feels almost sacrilegious or sanctimonious to write, but I'm not writing this to boast but to expose my shame). Now, my prayers are almost boring and over simple, even so that my family, who normally looks to me to pray, now tries to find somebody else to pray. I have found myself unusually uncomfortable praying for mundane things, and so I have almost nothing to say except my same mantra of thansgiving for God's blessings. You can hear this from my little girl, who copies my prayers, for all she says is, "Thank you for...thank you for...thank you for...In Jesus Name. Amen." In the mornings when I pray privately to God, all I can think about praying is the same thing in a hundred different ways. Every request is simply my desire to know Him, please Him, and for His will to be done in my life. Every intercession always ends up being about others knowing Him, pleasing Him, and for His will to be done in their lives. This sounds kind of off, but I almost don't care so much about my business being successful, my health being good, my family being happy, or even my ministry being well-received. This sounds almost "bad" to say, and perhaps if I were suffering a life-threatening sickness I might think differently, but I'm not so concerned about those strugging to survive from cancer, heart-disease, etc. All I can think is that absent from this body we will be with the Lord. I feel there is a greater hardship for the living than for those about to die. So why make such big to do about them, and for those doing everything they can to hold on to life, why prolong the misery of this earthly life? It is a real struggle for me to intercede for others, because I kind of know what people want me to pray, but it seems to me so empty and meaningless. One person came running up to me to exclaim that half of a person's cancer was gone. I awkwardly responded, "Great!" I didn't want to burst their bubble, for they were really thinking God had answered their prayer, and that this was a bonafide miracle. But I couldn't help but think, "What if Jesus only healed half a leg? Or if the blind man only partially received his sight? The deaf were only partially healed?" Would people have been amazed at God's mighty power? What if the Red Sea only opened up halfway, so that they could not get completely across? What is more, what if Jesus said that his miracle required all kinds of operations, therapy, procedures, etc. for the next six months? A part of me thinks that this premature celebration really cheapens true and biblical miracles and really takes away from a proper understanding of both God's power and Christ's authority. Even if a person is actually healed, why the over-celebration? It just means that God has more for them to do in this life, doesn't it? What if they are not healed? Will we be disappointed? Do we only celebrate the benefits of God? Are we not to exalt in God no matter what the outcome? Thus, it is hard for me to pray for these kinds of things. What's worse, I feel really awkward at the "Korean style" prayers which involve everyone praying simulataneously out loud with shouting, crying, extending of the hand (as if there were some power coming from our hands). Surely the apostles had such power, but is that power that we can claim for ourselves? My study of Scripture tells me no. I often find myself praying for the very people around me who are praying in this way, that God might help them and extend mercy to them. These practices seem so opposite from what Jesus taught and what the apostles practiced with respect to prayer. But for some time I thought that I was just losing my "skill" in prayer, perhaps because I don't pray as much out loud or in large group gatherings anymore. I am no longer so eloquent. My prayers are fairly short. I often forget this or that person's specific request. Perhaps I have lost my knack for prayer. But today I have another thought, especially as I consider the tenor and theme of some of these psalms. I have been in God's Word over these years more than I have ever been before, even more than in my seminary and bible college years. Perhaps, just perhaps, my prayers are being shaped by this. I would like to think this is the case. God only knows. |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Saturday, July 9, 2011, Unmi wrote,
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand,
the son of man you have raised up for yourself. (Psalm 80:17)
Who is the man at God's right hand, the son of man who was raised up?
When Jesus was before the Sanhedrin, The high priest questioned him. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! (Matthew 26:63-65) The high priest was crying "blasphemy" because Jesus was saying that he was the Messiah of Daniel's vision. “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. (Daniel 7:13) The mere honor of being in God's presence or sitting at His right hand isn't the end of the story. The next verse in Daniel explains the authority and power that he will be given. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. (Daniel 7:14) Jesus himself claimed to be this Messiah, the one whom all people would worship, the one whose dominion would never pass away.
Before he was killed, Stephen saw a vision. But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God...“Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” (Acts 7:55-56) Stephen testified that the resurrected Jesus was indeed standing at the right hand of God.
The writer of Hebrews said, The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. (Hebrews 1:3)
Jesus is the Son of Man who sits at the right hand of God the Father, he has everlasting dominion and his kingdom will never be destroyed, he sustains all things by his word and most importantly to us, he provides purification for our sins and intercedes for us.
Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. (Romans 8:34)
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Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Friday, July 8, 2011, Sherry wrote, Psalm 85:5-7 5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka,
The pilgrimage to the Temple passed through the barren valley of Baka. There is no specific valley identified and it may have been symbolic of the times of struggles and tears which we pass through on our way to meet God. In my life, growing strong In God's presence is often preceded by my pilgrimage through barren places in my lives. The person who loves to spend time with God's presence will view adverse circumstances as opportunities to experience God's faithfulness and blessing. If you are walking through your own valley of Baka, be sure your are on a pilgrimage toward God and not away from Him. I have learned to run fast to God and to lean hard on Him when things get tough. I have learned to Praise and thank Him for those struggles! |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Friday, July 8, 2011, Stephen wrote, My sharing today comes from Psalm 84. My short research between my patients led me to the possible background of this particular Psalm. One preacher said that this was written when King David was in exile on account of Absalom's rebellion. King David and the priests with him cannot go up to the Lord's tabernacle where they used to serve the Lord Almighty day and night and now their way to it is blocked. They are even envious of the birds which can stay close to the tabernacle where they have their nests. They are rid of the privilege to be in His presence. The exiles are now spiritually going through the Valley of Baca which is an arid land. But "they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools" because their strength is in the Lord. Every believer passes through the Valley of Baca many times in his life, but the Lord who yearns intimacy with His children prompts us to come closer to Himself so that we may "go from strength to strength, till each appears before God in Zion." No one can stop us from getting closer to God because God is the one who dwells in us and wills the intimacy with us. "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?" |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Friday, July 8, 2011, Fernando wrote, Psalm 83 16 Fill their faces with shame, ���that they may seek your name, O LORD. 17Let them be put to shame and dismayed forever; ���let them perish in disgrace, 18that they may know that you alone, ��� whose name is the LORD, ���are the Most High over all the earth. There is usually a pull I feel where there is a call for 'Repent!' and 'Be Doomed!' In the same breathe. In this psalm both gentiles and jews (v8) are rebelling but Asaph is asking for hardship for these people. So they feel shame and 'seek his name.' As I write I remember making a similar prayer for a friend.... And he is going through a shaming process; it just cost him his job. I hope he continues seeking God and does not become one perishing in disgrace. This 'Be Blessed' and 'Be Doomed' message are both true, and a word of God. Our sonship by Adam is doomed for destruction, but we also have the path by sonship through Jesus for Blessings. This Path by Jesus has been such an adventure - I say this in reverence; I take the perspective offered in James 1: "Consider your struggles as an opportunity for Joy. When you are tested and fully developed you will be strong and ready for everything." |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Friday, July 8, 2011 (Last Updated on 7/8/2013), Yujin wrote, Friends, That said, though long, I encourage you to read Bob's sharing on Psalm 82, especially as it gives insight into Jesus' defense of His Messianic authority before the religious leaders of His day. ------------------------- In the days of Jesus’ earthly life the Messianic expectation was at its highest pitch. Christ’s public ministry was surrounded by controversy as He claimed to be Messiah Himself. In His debate with the Jewish religious leaders, Christ quoted from Psalm 82 to prove His Messianic credentials. His citation of Psalm 82:6 must be explored within the larger context of John’s Gospel. Recall, in John 9, that our Lord had just healed a man who had been blind since birth, thereby demonstrating that He was the “light of the world” (John 9:5). While the blind man came to faith, the Jewish religious leaders willfully closed their eyes to the identity of Jesus as Israel’s Messiah. In the tenth chapter of John’s Gospel Jesus claimed to be the “Good Shepherd,” the door through whom everyone must enter in order to be saved. As the Good Shepherd He promised to lay down His life for the sheep (John 10:11). This statement caused a division among the Jews (10:19). Some insisted that He had a demon and ought to be ignored, while others found it difficult to believe that a demon-possessed man could give sight to a man born blind (10:20-21). The Jews gathered about our Lord, urging Him to speak forthrightly. Was He the Messiah or not (10:24)? His answer was clear enough for those who believed. He had previously revealed His identity but the majority did not believe. They did not believe because they were not His sheep. Those who were His sheep heard His voice, but the rest did not. Those whom God gave the Son believed and no one could snatch them from the Father’s hand. Climactically, Jesus boldly announced, “I and the Father are one” (10:30). This seemingly heretical acclamation enraged our Lord’s enemies. They took up stones to put Him to death. This statement was blasphemy in their view. To this charge our Lord responded by quoting from Psalm 82:6: “‘I said, you are gods’” (John 10:34). If God could call those “gods” to whom the word of God had come, why was it wrong for Jesus to claim to be God? Our Lord’s defense did not convince most of His opponents. They attempted to put Him to death, but He eluded their grasp (10:39). We can hardly be surprised that any argument would fail to convince those so opposed to our Lord. Let me ask you though, my friend, how convincing do you find our Lord’s defense? I must admit that I have always been inclined to think of the Lord’s use of Psalm 82 as more clever than convincing. Wasn’t Jesus just embarrassing His enemies by the use of an ingenious debating technique? At best, wouldn’t our Lord’s argument have proven Him to be a “god” only in the same sense that all men are “gods”? Isn’t this an argument which the cults could use to prove that men can be “gods” in the same way Christ claimed to be? Doesn’t our Lord’s use of Psalm 82 create more problems than it solves? It was only when a puzzled Christian asked me what our Lord meant in John 10 that I turned to Psalm 82 to try to understand its message. As I have come to a better understanding of Psalm 82 I have also been able to appreciate how well the text our Lord quoted justified His claim to be God. Psalm 82 not only showed that Jesus was Israel’s Messiah, it also had a very pointed message to those who had rejected Him and were attempting to put Him to death. Furthermore, I have come to see that Psalm 82 has a very awesome word to those of us who live in the 20th century. Let us look then to Psalm 82 for a word from God which should challenge our lives as much as it did those who lived so many years ago. God’s Court Is Convened
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Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Thursday, July 7, 2011, Fernando wrote, Psalm 81 13 Oh, that my people would listen to me, ���that Israel would walk in my ways! 14I would soon subdue their enemies ���and turn my hand against their foes The purpose of Creation is not for the glory of itself, rather the glory of God. As if by an externality Israel receives the blessings from the glory emanating from God. We in Jesus, get a similar 'perk,' a similar blessing as if by coincidence. Painting a picture as if it were not intentional is not correct but this 'side-effect' is an aspect of God that I see as a true simple sign of his might! "Walk with me and your bodies will be strong... Walk with me and you will not be foolish.. Walk with me and you have access to Goodness!" Oppose God and you really oppose everything you want! You oppose your way to peace, fulfillment, your way to Shalom! You oppose the way. Psalm 19: 7 The law of the LORD is perfect,[c] ��� reviving the soul; 10More to be desired are they than gold, ���even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey ���and drippings of the honeycomb. 13 Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins; ���let them not have dominion over me! God is perfectly and completely necessary for our fulfillment; blessed are those who listen to Him (v13). Blessed through grace, since it is not Jesus's mission objective to make my life great, it is to glorify the Father. Participating in that glory process, we find our enemies subdued and a sovereign power against them (v14) |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Thursday, July 8, 2010, Jeremy wrote, I know that Psalms have different authors but it seems there are several different moods expressed in these Psalms. It seems to start with the question I have asked in the past "Where are you Lord", then comes the question "Why do the wicked prosper?", another question often asked. Finally a kind of confirmation of God's promises to us.
I am wondering...these were hymns or songs right? I know out of the songs we sing today many of them are singing praises of God's promises to us however I would find it really odd for a song to question God's actions or in-actions... Am I missing an obvious difference or was it simply a cultural thing...I hope this question makes sense. |
Passage: Psalms 80-85 On Thursday, July 8, 2010 (Last Updated on 7/8/2013), Yujin wrote, Psalm 82 is not usually classified as a Messianic Psalm, and in at least one list, it is classified as a Wisdom Psalm; however, Jesus references this very psalm to support His claim to Messianic authoirty in John 10:34-36. At a very critical juncture in Jesus' ministry the religious leaders rejected Jesus as the Messiah, even claiming that He was doing miracles by the power of Satan (cf. John 10:20; Mark 3:22). More than once they picked up stones to kill him (cf. John 8:59; 10:31). On this occasion, they voice their objection to His claim to equality with God: "(We are stoning you) because you, a mere man, claim to be God" (John 10:33). In response, Jesus cites Psalm 82:6. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods" '? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? "(John 10:34-36). Many have taken this as just a clever use of an OT passage, where men are called "gods," such that Jesus' is saying something like, "See! It's in the Bible. Men are called gods, so why can't I call myself God." Let us not think so naively about our Lord so as to suggest He has to resort to "proof-texting" to defend His Messianic authority. Men might do this, but not the Lord, the very Author of the Word. But let us consider again the message of Psalm 82. Then in verse 6, God says, "I said, 'You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High.'" In what sense are these religious leaders called "gods" (elohim)? They are the representatives of God on earth. This is how the word is used of Moses (Exodus 4:16; 7:1) and of Israel's counsel of judges (Exodus 21:6; 22:8-9). So also Paul describes even earthly authorities as God's agents to execute justice. They are "a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil” (Romans 13:4). In this sense men not only act for God but act as God (as "gods"). But if we understand the context of Psalm 82, this authority as "gods" or "sons of God" carried the responsibility of executing God-like justice, which the religious leaders failed to do. That is why in verse 7 we find a word of judgment: "Nevertheless you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes." Even though they had the exalted status as God's representatives, they would be humbled in judgment ("die like men"). The latter phrase "fall like any one of the princes" should remind of us of King Nebuchadnezzar, who God drove to insanity because of his pride (cf. Daniel 4:28-37) or any number of the kings of Judah and Israel whom God judged because of their unrighteous rule. When Jesus used Psalm 82:6 in response to the religious rulers of His day, it was no mere defense but an indictment of their failure to be God's representatives to the people. The psalm closes with a recognition that only God could bring true justice: "Arise, O God, judge the earth! For it s You who possess all the nations." Despite all the warnings of the first seven verses, the psalmist realizes that righteous rule will only prevail on the earth when God Himself reigns in the person of His Son, the Messiah (cf. Psalm 2:2-9). Only when He comes will there be a rule that is truly righteous. Even the great kings like David and Solomon fell short of God’s ideal. Messiah Himself must come before the ideal government will become a reality. This is what Jesus was claiming for Himself from this psalm. Jesus was "the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world" (John 10:36). He would do what these religious leaders failed to do. And if they were wise, they would acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God (cf. Psalm 2:10-12). Unlike the religious rulers, who do not do the works of God, Jesus called them to believe in Him because He did do the "works of God ('My Father') " (John 10:37-38). The relevant application is obvious. The people of Jesus' day had to ascertain the person and character of the Righteous Judge. Either the religious leaders were correct (and Jesus must be put to death) or Jesus was God’s Righteous Ruler (and the Jewish leaders must be rejected). Even today, people must make the same decision. Either we bow the knee now to the Lord Jesus as our Savior, or we will bow the knee to Him as our Judge (Philippians 2:9-11; cf. Revelation 19:11-21). Let us do so now, so that we will not stand before Him condemned. |